From wuth at castrov.cuug.ab.ca Mon Feb 20 14:31:06 2012 From: wuth at castrov.cuug.ab.ca (Brett Wuth) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:31:06 -0700 Subject: [dev65] Termination of Mailing List? Message-ID: <20290.48026.145980.570802@fiore.castrov.cuug.ab.ca> Hi, You may have heard recent discussion of Bill C-30 in Canada. If this bill becomes law in its present form, it will likely require that this mailing list be shut down. Bill C-30 requires that all telecommunications service providers in Canada install and report the capability for legal spying on the communications of their clients. Unfortunately the law will require the same work of volunteer and amateur services provides such as the ones that make this mailing list possible. This mailing list relies on the e-mail domain cuug.ab.ca. CUUG -- the Calgary Unix Users' Group -- is an association of computer users and administrators. As a benefit to its members, volunteers within CUUG provide a high-quality e-mail service. In fact CUUG was one of the first ways the public in Calgary could get e-mail. I have been happily extending this service to support mailing lists used by other volunteer and non-profit communities, such as certain volunteer search and rescue groups, peace groups, and technical discussion groups. http://www.cuug.ab.ca Bill C-30 will require CUUG volunteers to prepare reports to the government and to install and configure spying software if they wish to continue to offer e-mail services to and through their members. This is a burden that CUUG and other volunteer organizations are unlikely to be able to support. I want to alert you that as a result, this mailing list may have to be shut down. A decision will be made and you will be notified when and if the bill passes into law. Although volunteer organizations in Canada may not be able to continue to offer these types of services, commercial operations can build the costs into their for-profit services. Two common business models are "pay for service" (costs about $5/month per mailing list) and advertising (ads are inserted into the messages transmitted). If anyone has the capability and wishes to take over this mailing list in another venue, I'd be happy to support them with the transition now. You may wish to consider alternative commercial services which use the same software we've provided. A list can be found here: http://wiki.list.org/display/COM/Mailman+hosting+services If you feel that requiring volunteer and non-profit service providers to report to the government and install spying software is inappropriate, you are encouraged to contact your Member of Parliament. Here are some resources you may wish to review: http://openmedia.ca/StopSpying http://www.michaelgeist.ca/tags/c-30 http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/292611-bill-c-30.html http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/02/14/online-bill.html http://openparliament.ca/bills/41-1/C-30/ Best Regards, -- Brett Wuth wuth at castrov.cuug.ab.ca wuth at acm.org Box 1251-U, Pincher Creek, Alberta T0K 1W0, CANADA Tel:+1 403 627-2460 OpenPGP FingerPrint=628F C9DA BDBC 2A0E 18F1 2F6A 3300 8422 BE6A 0E79 What is the meaning of life?! Yes.